The elf's name is Socrates? Seriously? What. I need to read these books again. It also saddens me deeply that elves loving the sea is yet another thing Paolini stole from Tolkien but what can you do. That aside (and so this comment isn't completely OT?) you do have a point.
Okay. 1) Where the fuck did the name Socrates come from? Last I heard he was either a Greek philosopher or a Brazilian football player. And 2) I don't understand your point with the poem. From what I can bequeath the "elven maid" wasn't attracted to the sea. And there ARE different types of love.. for different things.. hence why a person can love more than one thing at a time. The poem was eye-gouging but its idea was clear; a guy was torn between two passions. Love for the sea (no not sexual; I doubt even an elf can make love to an oversized puddle) and love for a woman. I don't see why you found it so confusing.
ok1.- I was referring to Socrates the greek philosopher and his theory of logical thinking. (read below).2.- there are different kinds of love indeed. So why the love for a maiden and the love for the sea is so big a problem to write a song? Unless he is forced to go sailing for whatever reason (is not implicit in the song he only said he loved the sea) and leave the elf maiden on arrive that’s a contrast for a song but like? like alone. I don’t found it to problematic. He can love the sea and the elf maiden. The problem is not with the elf maiden she gives a sh*** for the sea is with the male elf. If the male elf wants to get laid he has to stop “loving” the sea. Socrates a football player? Are you kidding?
The elf's name was not Socrates--although it's kind of sad that it's plausible from Paolini. But yeah two sea-loving elves... I evaluate the problem is probably supposed to be that the girl couldn't follow him to sea but that would make zero sense in an equalitarian society where women can be rulers and warriors and things. (No "bad luck," either because the elves only accept in things they can see.)
I still think it would be a great idea to make an elf philosopher and make him talk about the problem with immortality. Well. I don’t remember if the elf was going to do something on the sea with the sea or over the sea. He was only loving the sea.
As far as the label Socrates goes it's used in this famous logic example:Socrates is a man. All men are mortal. Therefore. Socrates is a mortal. I think that's what n-dorotea was referencing. Whether we can alter sense of the poem or not. Paolini-logic is funky so naturally not much of it will make comprehend.
Amen. Anonymous 1. It was nearly copied word for word. Nearly. Sha-Pao-Pao's version is dramatically different in one way: it sucks. Tolkien could write poetry. Annoyingly color poetry yes but beautiful nevertheless. Sha-Pao-Pao? Dear ennoble. If I ever read that poem again. I'll strangle him with a "lily-white ribbon" 'go HIS heart. How could anyone sing it anyway?
The thing that pissed me off about that song is that it is almost exactly like the Lay of Nimrodel from Lord of the Rings. And the names were Amroth and Nimdrodel. I convey Acallamh and Nuada. Socartes would've been funny but he'd probably be rolling in his grave if it had been. P. S. Does anyone undergo any idea how the hell you pronounce Acallamh? The beat I can go up with is Ah-kahl-lah-ma. Hey. I desire that. Here's a llama,There's a llama,And another little llama,Funny llama fuzzy llama,Llama llama duck. Ugh never mind. I'm a bit hyper right now.
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